The S&B scopes have had a long time reputation of amazing optics and high quality, but the price has always been out of reach for most shooters and even most law enforcement agencies out there. No matter what controversies may arise from the testing and the adoption, the fact remains that the S&B is now the USMC’s official sniping scope. This was quite the surprise as there were scopes provided by 25 companies and the S&B supposedly is the only scope that passed all the tests. Its closer to 1 per every six months of classes, not 1 for every six people.One of the most talked about optics topics as of late has been the USMC’s move to adopt the Schmidt and Bender PM LP/2 3-12x50mm scope on all of their M40A3 and M82 sniper rifles.
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Facts are what the facts are, in a class of 15 Leupolds on the line I expect and account for anywhere from 2 to 5 scopes to go down, I don't figure that with the same number of NF on the line. If you want to start a generic scope failure thread go ahead, but don't be surprised by the results. Do we see others fail, sure but not nearly as much. It's easily 20 to 1 when you compare the Nightforces on the line with the military units, this last class had 4 Leupolds on the line, 1 failed the first day, the remainders where USO, NF, and S&B. but I don't see the NF failing nearly as much, it's stark the reality of it, especially when you see more than 1 or 2 a week. it's every week in some cases, and even in the military classes we have Nightforce on the unit rifles next to Leupold. Yes, other brands fail, but not nearly with the frequency as we are seeing with Leupold. They well worn and definitely show signs of use. If you want to play the one up and working, the NF I use is heavily used, my S&Bs too, and guess what, of all of them, with more combined rounds than I can count, and only one scope has ever gone back for repair. now he goes from what he thought was a solid optics with a stellar reputation to being the guy holding up the class while we run up, get a new scope for him, usually I am pulling one of my NF off to switch it for him.
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he paid $1500 for the class, plus rental car, hotels, meals, and by the first day it fails. Originally Posted By: Lowlight So what do you tell the guy who traveled 1200 miles to take a class. The regular MLR wasn't bad but it was often very hard to tell the 1/2 mil lines for 1 mil lines to the point that I wish I had just gotten the standard mildot. That said I'm ordering a NF F1 high speed with the new MLR2 from Euro Optic for my next rifle, I really want to try out the new knobs and see if they see any different with the closer clicks aswell as the new MLR2 reticle. I've owned pretty much every NF scope out there with the exception of the 1-4, and also had a NF F1 most recently (which I feel is the best FFP for the $$ out there) but I just replaced it with a S&B 5-25 and wouldn't want it any other way. First off all the PMII's except maybe one variant of the 12-50 is FFP which is a key feature, everything about the scope is just super high quality and feels very refined, and the only scope you'll find that MIGHT have better glass than a S&B would be a hensoldt. That's all a matter of opinion, while I am one that will tell you NF's are the best bang for the buck out these and strait up the toughest scope you can get, there is no ignoring advantages to the S&B. Is an S&B better, yes but haing used both not enough to justify the additional cost over a Nightforce.
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+1 But I would take the midddle ground and go for a Nightforce. Leupold doesn t even begin to stack up against it.
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Originally Posted By: SantoOriginally Posted By: redneckbmxer24A high end scope like a S&B is worth every penny.